Podcast Episode: Interview of Pink Bits on Body Positivity

An inspiring interview on how art can change our relationship with our body

Podcast Episode: Interview of Pink Bits on Body Positivity

An inspiring interview on how art can change our relationship with our body

 
 

Artist Pink Bits shares with us why and how she started her creative project on Instagram, how art can help heal and build a love story with our bodies and build a more inclusive society, and why you might want to take your pencils and start drawing yourself.

Episode Transcript

Smile Makers , 00:09
Hi everyone and welcome to Clitastic Chronicles, a pleasure positive podcast created by Smile Makers for people with a clitoris. This week, we are talking with artist Pink Bits, that’s Pink_Bit on Instagram. With colourful and fun illustrations that she creates herself, Pink_Bits shows regular human bodies doing regular things, including the things that we tend to hide or silence, like menstruation, masturbation, body hair, or disability and sex. Pink_Bits does a great job at showing that everyone deserves pleasure, and that’s why we have worked on a year long collaboration to celebrate body and sex positivity with monthly illustrations. Check them out on Instagram @SmileMakersCollection and @Pink_Bits. Let’s dive in! Thank you, Christine, for joining me today.

Pink_Bits , 00:55
My pleasure.

Smile Makers , 00:56
I was wondering if we could start with you telling us a little bit about yourself as an artist or as a person in general?

Pink_Bits , 01:03
Yeah, sure. Hello, Christine, or Pink Bits. So I'm an illustrator and graphic designer. I'm based in Sydney, Australia. Yeah, so I've always been kind of more drawn to art that features the human body. And that's where I get a lot of my inspiration from, yeah, I just basically I try to provide as much representation as I can for people, particularly marginalized bodies and marginalized experiences, I really try to capture all the bits and shapes that we've been told isn't Okay, or that we should hide away or that we should erase from ourselves. Yeah, yeah, that's what I tried to do through my art.

Smile Makers , 01:39
Okay, cool. And was that a very conscious decision? Or we just noticing that that was like, received more wanted more? Or, or did you go out thinking like, this is my mission?

Pink_Bits , 01:53
Well, it actually started pretty innocuously. Like, I've always been a creative type, always drawing. I think I was bored one night, and I've kind of feel like drawing, I wanted to draw a body, I couldn't really find what I was looking for on like, Google wasn't, I don't know, I didn't know where to look. And so I was like, Oh, fuck it. And I just kind of whipped out my phone, and drew from my own new photos. And like, I didn't really have any art around me, that I kind of resonated with. So when I finished this drawing, it wasn't amazing. It was kind of like bootleg markers, and was really rough, but I was really happy with it. And I really liked it. So on a whim, I was like, oh, let's just put it on a new Instagram page with kind of like, I didn't really have any grand plans. But as more people kind of like kept seeing my art and noticing my art, a lot of people had the same sentiment that they felt represented, and it felt familiar. And they could kind of see themselves and their bodies within what I was drawing, which really struck a chord with me, because it was, you know, the exact same feeling that I felt and the empowerment that I felt. So kind of as I've been drawing more, and as I've been developing my style. And as it's been going along, I've been trying to represent more and more people outside of just myself. Yeah, so it's kind of been going from there.

Smile Makers , 03:10
Awesome, and you kind of just touched on the inclusivity of it or, and that's one thing that I was really going to ask you about, like, what is the biggest challenge of trying to be like authentically inclusive? If there is a challenge?

Pink_Bits , 03:24
Yeah, well, I mean, like, for me, it's more just, I want to draw everyone, but I'm one person. So sometimes I just struggle with, frankly, just time and sometimes I feel a little bad. I'm like, I haven't drawn this yet, and haven't drawn that yet. But I am one person and I'm trying to draw as many people as I can. But I find that like, really interesting the idea of like authentic inclusivity. And it should be, but it's like something I'm noticing in like, I don't know, marketing at the moment. Like it's almost like a ploy or a device right now, and it's kinda out of there. It's interesting to see because there's such a line between like authentic inclusivity and then just plain tokenism. So I think that's something that people feel and people notice the difference, especially in just like wider and bigger corporates that are kind of trying to jump on, but it's still exciting to see like more bodies represented and more experiences represented at such a mass scale, which can only be good, but yeah, yeah.

Smile Makers , 04:24
Interesting. against any kind of backlash over the way you draw bodies and your your mission to be as inclusive as possible. Well, I say mission, but it feels like it's just very natural thing for you.

Pink_Bits , 04:38
Hmmm, yeah. backlash wise, not too much. Like obviously, you get some bigoted comments here and there. And that kind of thing. I've mainly it's mainly been good. It's mainly been like really wholesome and I have a really lovely community, which has been great. I have had an instance where I drew a woman masturbating and Instagram, deleted it, right. Which was like hilarious? Um, and in my like, in my own petty backlash, I like re uploaded it with an Instagram logo over the genitals. But yeah, it's been it's been pretty good so far on the whole.

Smile Makers , 05:13
That's so funny. I was gonna ask you about social media, but it's a lot of sexual wellness brands. We do struggle, like we can't pay for ads on social media, like that's out of the question, especially Facebook and and we have experienced ourselves Instagram taking down photos and shadow banning us. And it happens like constantly. So I think that's a really funny and positive way that you, you react to that. It was that like the only incident with social media being difficult?

Pink_Bits , 05:46
Yeah, I think that's the only like official one I've had from Instagram. Like there's been like a couple that have been removed and that kind of thing. Yeah, it's been pretty good. But you know, Instagram is notorious for just like you said, shadow banning, and censoring and removing posts, and not really dealing with an unsolicited photos sent to people. Deleting people's accounts, when they go to report those people is pretty wild.

Smile Makers , 06:15
Yeah, it's difficult. But you did mention how your work has managed to kind of create community, which I think is amazing. And it's, it's definitely why we reached out to you, because we seen that, you know, in the comments, even the impression that your work was making on people and their lives, and obviously makes them feel really good. I can only imagine what your DMs get like. And I was just wondering if there any, like, interesting stories or positive reactions, or kind of relationships that you've built that you could share with us?

Pink_Bits , 06:49
Yeah, my DMs are wild. Yeah, I feel bad or like, get to respond to all of them, just because there's so many, but it's all pretty positive. On the whole, I get a lot of beautiful, personal messages from people, you know, thanking me for my artwork, or expressing a particular piece that really resonated with them or encouraged them or made them see their bodies differently and more positively than what they were doing before. Which is it's always so yeah, it yeah, it means a lot when I read those messages because it's instant change in someone for the better. But then like on the flip side, I also do get just like, weird or creepy, strange messages. People, I had one dude, messaged me, with genuine concern that I think the message went along the lines of how does your partner fuck you if you have lots of pubic hair? Like, how does it get to a hole? And I was like, Oh, my God, like, I'm kind of annoyed, but also feel really sorry for any potential sexual partners you might have. Yeah, yeah, so that was wild. But actually, funnily enough, I had a comment, I think, this morning, just this morning, that was like, stop sexualizing everything. Which I thought was really interesting, because I think it speaks a lot to a woman's body or just a body in general, like being naked, equating to being sexual, or, you know, just the sexualization of a naked body, which is like such a big problem. And just, it just stems into so many different areas. But yeah, that like, Yeah, I don't know, like I purposely do draw naked bodies, in joy, in pain in everyday kind of innocuous moments, just to normalize the naked body because that is just such a yeah, prolific problem.

Smile Makers , 08:56
And it is kind of like, very telling how, when people like meet that with such, like, anger, because women's bodies are like, fetishized everywhere, in everything, in perfume adverts, on bathroom products. But when there is something like the way you do, it's just very normal and very real and just in their own living spaces. Just quite joyful or, or quite sad. Like, it's just real. It's a motion to strike a nerve with people way more.

Pink_Bits , 09:35
Yeah.

Smile Makers , 09:37
So what what do you think from the reaction, like the positive reactions that you had, and from your own experience doing this because I can only imagine that maybe it's quite cathartic for you as well, like for women maybe drawing themselves or using art as a way to kind of survive I guess, in such a society that judges were for being quite sexual or just normalizing real bodies, like, do you have any advice for women? kind of curious about using art in the way you do?

Pink_Bits , 10:10
Yeah, I'd say it's just really empowering more than anything else, to pairing for you to have people around you. It's almost comforting in a way, it lets you work through feelings, through emotions, work through anger, work through whatever you want, I'd say capture your experience, like no one's gonna know your experiences, your feelings, your history, your sensations quite like you do, you've got such a individual point of view. So any art that you make, like, it's so original, and it's so important. Yeah, I think it's just art is really powerful, and really undervalued, in society in general. It just has the ability to transform ways of thinking and to challenge things and just to move us forward really, to capture so much with you know, a brushstroke or a pen line or pencil on paper. Yeah, it has the ability to do a lot both for the greater good and the wider good, but also just internally.

Smile Makers , 11:12
There's something I I kind of noticed as well about the way you write or speak, I guess, on your website, and on on the Instagram, it feels almost a bit journalistic and very personal and very open. I was just wondering, has that been, like a progress for you? Or is are you just quite open? In general with your personal experiences?

Pink_Bits , 11:37
Yeah, I think I've always just kind of been a bit open, funnily enough, like, I'm a bit of an introverted soul. Which means that I do a lot of thinking. So yeah, but I find like, especially in terms of like, sex positivity. I've always been a very open, and like, open to discussion kind of person. Yeah, I'm not too sure why, but that's always been the case.

Smile Makers , 12:04
No, it's good. Me too. Is there anything that you've learned doing Pink Bits about, like sex or sexuality that you just didn't know before?

Pink_Bits , 12:18
Oh, oh, like a bit on the spot. Like, I feel like I was just like, not even a conscious person before, like, I discovered, like, the body positivity community and the self love community and the sex positivity community. Like, yeah, there's just so much information out there, and everyone is sharing, and it's frickin amazing. But I think I've loved that. It's not just not to be so serious, if that makes sense. Like, there's so much to try. And if like, you don't like it, that's fine. If you're not overly sexual, that's fine. Yeah, I think that like, on the whole, yeah, I think just experimenting more honestly, has been really cool. But then also just like learning about things and toys, and like scenes that like, I might not be into

Smile Makers , 13:07
my very first boyfriend in college. He said to me, anything you can think of, there is someone who finds that, like, sexual, there's like a fetish for it. Like anything. And I just, I think my mind just blew at that moment. As I've gotten older, I realized how true that is and how awesome that is, as well. And everybody is so different. And I think that's what's very special about your work is the range that you cover, not just with, like body types, but also Yeah, like what people could be into and what what brings them joy.

Pink_Bits , 13:42
Thank you.Yeah, it's really exciting. It's really cool.

Smile Makers , 13:46
It's amazing what you do. I really think it's very hard. Yeah, and going back to like the openness, your stickers I seen on the website recently, I keep meaning to buy them, I am going to buy them, the libido one yeah, I think a lot of women don't talk about as much because of sexual wellness being such a huge trend and talks about thing at the moment. I think one thing that's getting overlooked maybe is that, you know, sexuality and libido or desire rather, isn't something that is like consistent or you know, you should impress yourself or like have that expectation of yourself. So I think it's very interesting that you've touched on that was that inspired by like your followers?

Pink_Bits , 14:38
The low libido sticker? Yeah, that was actually inspired by like my own experience. And then I think a few followers had messaged me like Oh, I'd love you to capture like having a low libido kind of thing. So it's a bit of a mix but yeah, like you're absolutely right like right now like sexual wellness is like quite big. And yeah, like people are being overlooked like that. Do have a low libido or no libido, or just aren't that sexual as people, which is cool. Yeah, like that is definitely being overlooked. But it's also just like stress and the every day or like depression or mental health kind of things can get in the way of libido. And that's cool too. And it's like, it's just such an ebb and flow thing. Like, you'll have a year where you're just like, switched on, and then you'll have a year where it's like, ah, like, I just don't really feel like experimenting or just breathe and like less than year blocks, but like, yeah.

Smile Makers , 14:40
Yeah Yeah, and like, work that you've done. Like, even those stickers. It's just like a nod to those people going through that to say, like, this is okay. And it's no more and you don't have to fix anything about yourself. It's just where you are. And I think that's really beautiful.

Pink_Bits , 15:50
Thank you. Yeah, yeah, it is. Absolutely. Okay.

Smile Makers , 15:54
Do you have any like, go to like, inspiration like people or books or anything when you're needing like, maybe like a creative boost?

Pink_Bits , 16:06
Ooooh. Oh, there's so many, I eman Instagram is just full of so many talented people. I follow a lot of like, really great, like sex positive people and artists and like sex educators and that kind of thing. Like Ruby Rare is fucking amazing. Erica Hot amazing. Come Curious is a really great podcast. at then Whitney. Sex yoga. I think that's how you say it. Lisa. Listen. Ally Banks have some really amazing work. Francis Cannon is a love and amazing. The Vulva Gallery great. Yeah, this like it's just a there's so many cool people to support like, yeah, I could be here for literally like hours, just like maybe everyone.

Smile Makers , 16:53
Yeah, Instagram is incredible. Like what it's done for done for people and so many industries, I guess like, yeah, it's really built so many community.

Pink_Bits , 17:03
Yeah, it has it is really good for community. For sure.

Smile Makers , 17:07
I have a really random question going, like way back to the beginning of us chatting. . You know how you kind of just grab, like some felt tips when you very first started your drawing. Yeah. And I was just curious about like, the medium of your jury is it always felt Is there a reason behind that? Hmm. It's just very playful. And I'm just wondering if there's like an intention.

Pink_Bits , 17:35
Yeah, I think when I first started, those markers were what was close to me, and what happened to be pink. So I was like, yeah, that's the thing I'm going to use. But then like, over time, I think I've just appreciated the warmth, that drawing on paper first can bring. So now it's a little bit more complicated in the way that I make art. So it is still like a bit of a 50/50 mix between start on paper first pencils, markers, that kind of thing. And then bringing it on to my computer and adding bits and pieces and getting the color just right and all that stuff. But yeah, I think I just really liked the texture and the warmth. Because it's not just like a flat color, if that makes sense. Yeah, I kind of like that. You look like you could kind of like rub your finger on it. And it would have like a sensation on your finger or whatever. And it just feels a bit familiar/not so serious, I think. But yeah, I think I've always just tried to keep like the shapes kind of rounded and it a bit like organic and warm and inviting on the whole. Yeah,

Smile Makers , 18:40
yes. Where it's going aesthetically. That's definitely how it comes off. I think the with the colors. And even though it's very bright and very fun. There is something that in the aesthetic that you've created that makes it the topic and the image even more normal, I guess, is it something quite familiar with? Yeah, I think the last thing I really wanted to ask was like, What is it that you hope to achieve with Pink Bits and be remembered for with Pink Bits? Is there like, like an end goal? Or is it just more of the really great stuff you're doing?

Pink_Bits , 19:21
I think I do view it as like a long term project. And just to draw as many people as I can. I think on the whole, the goal is that people feel represented and seen and celebrated. So if someone looks at my work, and has been inspired to kind of like look inwards or challenge, something that they believed about themselves or unlearn like patriarchal lessons that they've been taught, that's kind of the end goal, and to just kind of like challenge all these dumb lessons we've been taught about our bodies and ourselves and who we are as people. So yeah, I think that's kind of that's the overarching That's the goal. That's the that's the mission. That's the mission statement.

Smile Makers , 20:05
Amazing. So doing your bit to fight the patriarchy.

Pink_Bits , 20:08
Fuck, yeah.

Smile Makers , 20:15
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Artist Pink Bits shares with us why and how she started her creative project on Instagram, how art can help heal and build a love story with our bodies and build a more inclusive society, and why you might want to take your pencils and start drawing yourself.

Episode Transcript

Smile Makers , 00:09
Hi everyone and welcome to Clitastic Chronicles, a pleasure positive podcast created by Smile Makers for people with a clitoris. This week, we are talking with artist Pink Bits, that’s Pink_Bit on Instagram. With colourful and fun illustrations that she creates herself, Pink_Bits shows regular human bodies doing regular things, including the things that we tend to hide or silence, like menstruation, masturbation, body hair, or disability and sex. Pink_Bits does a great job at showing that everyone deserves pleasure, and that’s why we have worked on a year long collaboration to celebrate body and sex positivity with monthly illustrations. Check them out on Instagram @SmileMakersCollection and @Pink_Bits. Let’s dive in! Thank you, Christine, for joining me today.

Pink_Bits , 00:55
My pleasure.

Smile Makers , 00:56
I was wondering if we could start with you telling us a little bit about yourself as an artist or as a person in general?

Pink_Bits , 01:03
Yeah, sure. Hello, Christine, or Pink Bits. So I'm an illustrator and graphic designer. I'm based in Sydney, Australia. Yeah, so I've always been kind of more drawn to art that features the human body. And that's where I get a lot of my inspiration from, yeah, I just basically I try to provide as much representation as I can for people, particularly marginalized bodies and marginalized experiences, I really try to capture all the bits and shapes that we've been told isn't Okay, or that we should hide away or that we should erase from ourselves. Yeah, yeah, that's what I tried to do through my art.

Smile Makers , 01:39
Okay, cool. And was that a very conscious decision? Or we just noticing that that was like, received more wanted more? Or, or did you go out thinking like, this is my mission?

Pink_Bits , 01:53
Well, it actually started pretty innocuously. Like, I've always been a creative type, always drawing. I think I was bored one night, and I've kind of feel like drawing, I wanted to draw a body, I couldn't really find what I was looking for on like, Google wasn't, I don't know, I didn't know where to look. And so I was like, Oh, fuck it. And I just kind of whipped out my phone, and drew from my own new photos. And like, I didn't really have any art around me, that I kind of resonated with. So when I finished this drawing, it wasn't amazing. It was kind of like bootleg markers, and was really rough, but I was really happy with it. And I really liked it. So on a whim, I was like, oh, let's just put it on a new Instagram page with kind of like, I didn't really have any grand plans. But as more people kind of like kept seeing my art and noticing my art, a lot of people had the same sentiment that they felt represented, and it felt familiar. And they could kind of see themselves and their bodies within what I was drawing, which really struck a chord with me, because it was, you know, the exact same feeling that I felt and the empowerment that I felt. So kind of as I've been drawing more, and as I've been developing my style. And as it's been going along, I've been trying to represent more and more people outside of just myself. Yeah, so it's kind of been going from there.

Smile Makers , 03:10
Awesome, and you kind of just touched on the inclusivity of it or, and that's one thing that I was really going to ask you about, like, what is the biggest challenge of trying to be like authentically inclusive? If there is a challenge?

Pink_Bits , 03:24
Yeah, well, I mean, like, for me, it's more just, I want to draw everyone, but I'm one person. So sometimes I just struggle with, frankly, just time and sometimes I feel a little bad. I'm like, I haven't drawn this yet, and haven't drawn that yet. But I am one person and I'm trying to draw as many people as I can. But I find that like, really interesting the idea of like authentic inclusivity. And it should be, but it's like something I'm noticing in like, I don't know, marketing at the moment. Like it's almost like a ploy or a device right now, and it's kinda out of there. It's interesting to see because there's such a line between like authentic inclusivity and then just plain tokenism. So I think that's something that people feel and people notice the difference, especially in just like wider and bigger corporates that are kind of trying to jump on, but it's still exciting to see like more bodies represented and more experiences represented at such a mass scale, which can only be good, but yeah, yeah.

Smile Makers , 04:24
Interesting. against any kind of backlash over the way you draw bodies and your your mission to be as inclusive as possible. Well, I say mission, but it feels like it's just very natural thing for you.

Pink_Bits , 04:38
Hmmm, yeah. backlash wise, not too much. Like obviously, you get some bigoted comments here and there. And that kind of thing. I've mainly it's mainly been good. It's mainly been like really wholesome and I have a really lovely community, which has been great. I have had an instance where I drew a woman masturbating and Instagram, deleted it, right. Which was like hilarious? Um, and in my like, in my own petty backlash, I like re uploaded it with an Instagram logo over the genitals. But yeah, it's been it's been pretty good so far on the whole.

Smile Makers , 05:13
That's so funny. I was gonna ask you about social media, but it's a lot of sexual wellness brands. We do struggle, like we can't pay for ads on social media, like that's out of the question, especially Facebook and and we have experienced ourselves Instagram taking down photos and shadow banning us. And it happens like constantly. So I think that's a really funny and positive way that you, you react to that. It was that like the only incident with social media being difficult?

Pink_Bits , 05:46
Yeah, I think that's the only like official one I've had from Instagram. Like there's been like a couple that have been removed and that kind of thing. Yeah, it's been pretty good. But you know, Instagram is notorious for just like you said, shadow banning, and censoring and removing posts, and not really dealing with an unsolicited photos sent to people. Deleting people's accounts, when they go to report those people is pretty wild.

Smile Makers , 06:15
Yeah, it's difficult. But you did mention how your work has managed to kind of create community, which I think is amazing. And it's, it's definitely why we reached out to you, because we seen that, you know, in the comments, even the impression that your work was making on people and their lives, and obviously makes them feel really good. I can only imagine what your DMs get like. And I was just wondering if there any, like, interesting stories or positive reactions, or kind of relationships that you've built that you could share with us?

Pink_Bits , 06:49
Yeah, my DMs are wild. Yeah, I feel bad or like, get to respond to all of them, just because there's so many, but it's all pretty positive. On the whole, I get a lot of beautiful, personal messages from people, you know, thanking me for my artwork, or expressing a particular piece that really resonated with them or encouraged them or made them see their bodies differently and more positively than what they were doing before. Which is it's always so yeah, it yeah, it means a lot when I read those messages because it's instant change in someone for the better. But then like on the flip side, I also do get just like, weird or creepy, strange messages. People, I had one dude, messaged me, with genuine concern that I think the message went along the lines of how does your partner fuck you if you have lots of pubic hair? Like, how does it get to a hole? And I was like, Oh, my God, like, I'm kind of annoyed, but also feel really sorry for any potential sexual partners you might have. Yeah, yeah, so that was wild. But actually, funnily enough, I had a comment, I think, this morning, just this morning, that was like, stop sexualizing everything. Which I thought was really interesting, because I think it speaks a lot to a woman's body or just a body in general, like being naked, equating to being sexual, or, you know, just the sexualization of a naked body, which is like such a big problem. And just, it just stems into so many different areas. But yeah, that like, Yeah, I don't know, like I purposely do draw naked bodies, in joy, in pain in everyday kind of innocuous moments, just to normalize the naked body because that is just such a yeah, prolific problem.

Smile Makers , 08:56
And it is kind of like, very telling how, when people like meet that with such, like, anger, because women's bodies are like, fetishized everywhere, in everything, in perfume adverts, on bathroom products. But when there is something like the way you do, it's just very normal and very real and just in their own living spaces. Just quite joyful or, or quite sad. Like, it's just real. It's a motion to strike a nerve with people way more.

Pink_Bits , 09:35
Yeah.

Smile Makers , 09:37
So what what do you think from the reaction, like the positive reactions that you had, and from your own experience doing this because I can only imagine that maybe it's quite cathartic for you as well, like for women maybe drawing themselves or using art as a way to kind of survive I guess, in such a society that judges were for being quite sexual or just normalizing real bodies, like, do you have any advice for women? kind of curious about using art in the way you do?

Pink_Bits , 10:10
Yeah, I'd say it's just really empowering more than anything else, to pairing for you to have people around you. It's almost comforting in a way, it lets you work through feelings, through emotions, work through anger, work through whatever you want, I'd say capture your experience, like no one's gonna know your experiences, your feelings, your history, your sensations quite like you do, you've got such a individual point of view. So any art that you make, like, it's so original, and it's so important. Yeah, I think it's just art is really powerful, and really undervalued, in society in general. It just has the ability to transform ways of thinking and to challenge things and just to move us forward really, to capture so much with you know, a brushstroke or a pen line or pencil on paper. Yeah, it has the ability to do a lot both for the greater good and the wider good, but also just internally.

Smile Makers , 11:12
There's something I I kind of noticed as well about the way you write or speak, I guess, on your website, and on on the Instagram, it feels almost a bit journalistic and very personal and very open. I was just wondering, has that been, like a progress for you? Or is are you just quite open? In general with your personal experiences?

Pink_Bits , 11:37
Yeah, I think I've always just kind of been a bit open, funnily enough, like, I'm a bit of an introverted soul. Which means that I do a lot of thinking. So yeah, but I find like, especially in terms of like, sex positivity. I've always been a very open, and like, open to discussion kind of person. Yeah, I'm not too sure why, but that's always been the case.

Smile Makers , 12:04
No, it's good. Me too. Is there anything that you've learned doing Pink Bits about, like sex or sexuality that you just didn't know before?

Pink_Bits , 12:18
Oh, oh, like a bit on the spot. Like, I feel like I was just like, not even a conscious person before, like, I discovered, like, the body positivity community and the self love community and the sex positivity community. Like, yeah, there's just so much information out there, and everyone is sharing, and it's frickin amazing. But I think I've loved that. It's not just not to be so serious, if that makes sense. Like, there's so much to try. And if like, you don't like it, that's fine. If you're not overly sexual, that's fine. Yeah, I think that like, on the whole, yeah, I think just experimenting more honestly, has been really cool. But then also just like learning about things and toys, and like scenes that like, I might not be into

Smile Makers , 13:07
my very first boyfriend in college. He said to me, anything you can think of, there is someone who finds that, like, sexual, there's like a fetish for it. Like anything. And I just, I think my mind just blew at that moment. As I've gotten older, I realized how true that is and how awesome that is, as well. And everybody is so different. And I think that's what's very special about your work is the range that you cover, not just with, like body types, but also Yeah, like what people could be into and what what brings them joy.

Pink_Bits , 13:42
Thank you.Yeah, it's really exciting. It's really cool.

Smile Makers , 13:46
It's amazing what you do. I really think it's very hard. Yeah, and going back to like the openness, your stickers I seen on the website recently, I keep meaning to buy them, I am going to buy them, the libido one yeah, I think a lot of women don't talk about as much because of sexual wellness being such a huge trend and talks about thing at the moment. I think one thing that's getting overlooked maybe is that, you know, sexuality and libido or desire rather, isn't something that is like consistent or you know, you should impress yourself or like have that expectation of yourself. So I think it's very interesting that you've touched on that was that inspired by like your followers?

Pink_Bits , 14:38
The low libido sticker? Yeah, that was actually inspired by like my own experience. And then I think a few followers had messaged me like Oh, I'd love you to capture like having a low libido kind of thing. So it's a bit of a mix but yeah, like you're absolutely right like right now like sexual wellness is like quite big. And yeah, like people are being overlooked like that. Do have a low libido or no libido, or just aren't that sexual as people, which is cool. Yeah, like that is definitely being overlooked. But it's also just like stress and the every day or like depression or mental health kind of things can get in the way of libido. And that's cool too. And it's like, it's just such an ebb and flow thing. Like, you'll have a year where you're just like, switched on, and then you'll have a year where it's like, ah, like, I just don't really feel like experimenting or just breathe and like less than year blocks, but like, yeah.

Smile Makers , 14:40
Yeah Yeah, and like, work that you've done. Like, even those stickers. It's just like a nod to those people going through that to say, like, this is okay. And it's no more and you don't have to fix anything about yourself. It's just where you are. And I think that's really beautiful.

Pink_Bits , 15:50
Thank you. Yeah, yeah, it is. Absolutely. Okay.

Smile Makers , 15:54
Do you have any like, go to like, inspiration like people or books or anything when you're needing like, maybe like a creative boost?

Pink_Bits , 16:06
Ooooh. Oh, there's so many, I eman Instagram is just full of so many talented people. I follow a lot of like, really great, like sex positive people and artists and like sex educators and that kind of thing. Like Ruby Rare is fucking amazing. Erica Hot amazing. Come Curious is a really great podcast. at then Whitney. Sex yoga. I think that's how you say it. Lisa. Listen. Ally Banks have some really amazing work. Francis Cannon is a love and amazing. The Vulva Gallery great. Yeah, this like it's just a there's so many cool people to support like, yeah, I could be here for literally like hours, just like maybe everyone.

Smile Makers , 16:53
Yeah, Instagram is incredible. Like what it's done for done for people and so many industries, I guess like, yeah, it's really built so many community.

Pink_Bits , 17:03
Yeah, it has it is really good for community. For sure.

Smile Makers , 17:07
I have a really random question going, like way back to the beginning of us chatting. . You know how you kind of just grab, like some felt tips when you very first started your drawing. Yeah. And I was just curious about like, the medium of your jury is it always felt Is there a reason behind that? Hmm. It's just very playful. And I'm just wondering if there's like an intention.

Pink_Bits , 17:35
Yeah, I think when I first started, those markers were what was close to me, and what happened to be pink. So I was like, yeah, that's the thing I'm going to use. But then like, over time, I think I've just appreciated the warmth, that drawing on paper first can bring. So now it's a little bit more complicated in the way that I make art. So it is still like a bit of a 50/50 mix between start on paper first pencils, markers, that kind of thing. And then bringing it on to my computer and adding bits and pieces and getting the color just right and all that stuff. But yeah, I think I just really liked the texture and the warmth. Because it's not just like a flat color, if that makes sense. Yeah, I kind of like that. You look like you could kind of like rub your finger on it. And it would have like a sensation on your finger or whatever. And it just feels a bit familiar/not so serious, I think. But yeah, I think I've always just tried to keep like the shapes kind of rounded and it a bit like organic and warm and inviting on the whole. Yeah,

Smile Makers , 18:40
yes. Where it's going aesthetically. That's definitely how it comes off. I think the with the colors. And even though it's very bright and very fun. There is something that in the aesthetic that you've created that makes it the topic and the image even more normal, I guess, is it something quite familiar with? Yeah, I think the last thing I really wanted to ask was like, What is it that you hope to achieve with Pink Bits and be remembered for with Pink Bits? Is there like, like an end goal? Or is it just more of the really great stuff you're doing?

Pink_Bits , 19:21
I think I do view it as like a long term project. And just to draw as many people as I can. I think on the whole, the goal is that people feel represented and seen and celebrated. So if someone looks at my work, and has been inspired to kind of like look inwards or challenge, something that they believed about themselves or unlearn like patriarchal lessons that they've been taught, that's kind of the end goal, and to just kind of like challenge all these dumb lessons we've been taught about our bodies and ourselves and who we are as people. So yeah, I think that's kind of that's the overarching That's the goal. That's the that's the mission. That's the mission statement.

Smile Makers , 20:05
Amazing. So doing your bit to fight the patriarchy.

Pink_Bits , 20:08
Fuck, yeah.

Smile Makers , 20:15
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